tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28183672983701116472024-02-02T15:44:19.044-08:00The King of SchmoozeThese are the theological ramblings of the king of schmooze. It's a name my friends gave me...
it's a long story that will take more space than this to explain...it's not that exciting anyhow
(Schmooze: transitive verb: be ingratiating toward somebody: to talk persuasively to somebody, often to gain personal advantage)Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-52556930554146259272011-05-31T01:49:00.001-07:002011-05-31T01:49:48.662-07:00Rethinking spiritual growth<div><p>Tullian Tchividian writes about spiritual growth and does so with great insight....<a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tullian/2011/04/13/rethinking-progress/">http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tullian/2011/04/13/rethinking-progress/</a><br>
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</div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-26641851218834213602010-09-30T23:36:00.000-07:002010-09-30T23:37:47.490-07:00this blog is defunct...go here insteadI no longer use this blog and have moved my now much more regular postings to <a href="http://proteavalleyfamilychurch.blogspot.com/">this new blog</a>.Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-70956236712405562052009-10-13T23:26:00.000-07:002009-10-13T23:28:02.943-07:00LeadershipCharles Swindoll, one of the great leaders in the church recently reflected on the greatest lessons he has learned in leadership over the years and I think they're worth sharing:<div><br /><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 17px; ">1) It’s lonely to lead. Leadership involves tough decisions. The tougher the decision, the lonelier it is.<br />2) It’s dangerous to succeed. I’m most concerned for those who aren’t even 30 and are very gifted and successful. Sometimes God uses someone right out of youth, but usually he uses leaders who have been crushed<br />3) It’s hardest at home. No one ever told me this in Seminary.<br />4) It’s essential to be real. If there’s one realm where phoniness is common, it’s among leaders. Stay real.<br />5) It’s painful to obey. The Lord will direct you to do some things that won’t be your choice. Invariably you will give up what you want to do for the cross.<br />6) Brokenness and failure are necessary.<br />7) Attititude is more important than actions. Your family may not have told you: some of you are hard to be around. A bad attitude overshadows good actions.<br />8) Integrity eclipse image. Today we highlight image. But it’s what you’re doing behind the scenes.<br />9) God's way is better than my way.<br />10) Christlikeness begins and ends with humility</span></div></div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-42107214265075642982009-10-05T22:22:00.000-07:002009-10-05T22:24:44.399-07:00Reading the bible<div class="Section1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;">I preached Sunday from Ephesians 4 and over the next two Sundays will work through Romans 12 and 1 Corinthians 12 to unpack some of the wisdom from God to us about the gifts bestowed on believers by the Holy Spirit. This is central to us understanding our place in the body.</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"> I have preached the first sermon and will preach the second and third in the same expository way – unpacking thought at a time what the particular passage in the Bible is saying and then, God willing, we’ll try to apply those things to our daily lives. Bible application is desperately important in preaching and every preacher needs to make sure there is some application of the text in a relevant way. In doing some reading this evening I found this gem about reading and applying the Bible from youth pastor Jeremy Berg.</span></span></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;">“</span></span><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;">Instead of "applying the Bible to our lives" (which again assumes we are the fixed center point and the Word is just a holy ointment to be applied to our souls) let's instead try to "apply ourselves to the Bible." Put narratively, let's not let give God a convenient place within our own story; but rather find ourselves swept up in God's much larger Story!</span></span></i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;">”</span></span></span></span></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"> Wow! That is good!</span></span></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"> </span></span></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;">Applying ourselves to the Bible might help us become “</span></span><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;">doers of the word</span></span></i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;">” as Jesus intended. Applying the Bible to us keeps us in the same human centred ethos we so sinfully fall into time and time again.</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"> </span></span></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;">Wish I had said it!</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"> </span></span></o:p></span></p> </div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-8172900252478060642009-09-27T22:57:00.000-07:002009-09-27T23:06:36.607-07:00internet churchThere is much talk about multisite ministry where video feed from one teacher/preacher is sent to other sites where groups meet. I think the idea is helpful at points as one can then access outstanding preaching in multiple locations. It has some issues too, but that is not what this post is about.<div><br /></div><div>The multisite model has also now spawned the internet church. Here you can meet in forums (cell groups) and listen to live audio or video of the preaching. Whilst this does allow many more people to access the teaching in an informal and even anonymous environment, it has some major problems that many others are pointing to.</div><div><br /></div><div>We at our congregation have been focusing on fellowship and community. Our love for God HAS to find meaning in our love for others. And this is, in my mind, where the internet church primarily falls short. Whilst one can open up on a forum and seek counsel via email, we've missed something in the personal interaction face to face. To confess sin online to a bunch of fairly anonymous folk is one thing, to bare ones soul to a brother or sister is a lot more real and life changing.</div><div><br /></div><div>The second issue that I believe is a downfall of the internet church is that it is a consuming model in line with our consumer culture. There is little or no real opportunity to give back, and there is little opportunity to really identify with the community. It is very self serving in many ways and also it's tough to serve with ones spiritual gifts from behind the keyboard. How do I show hospitality, tongues/interpretation whilst we are separated?</div><div><br /></div><div>I think internet church is helpful to a point...but because it lacks the personal connection and the opportunity to serve it is and never will be church.</div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-41045197615046976632009-09-11T03:18:00.000-07:002009-09-11T03:35:04.255-07:00Episcopalian church is apostate<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"><br /></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">The episcoplaian church has been getting more and more liberal as time has gone on. Acceptance of homosexuality, proponents of same-sex marriage and even ordaining practicing homosexuals. But they have now become apostate and are no longer fit to be called a church. According to VirtueOnline a webiste for Anglican orthodoxy at the 75th convention the house overwhelmingly voted to NOT state that Jesus is the only way to be saved. In case your scripture knowledge is a bit rusty:</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="en-us"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">"</span></span><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">And there is </span></span></i></span><span lang="en-us"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">salvation </span></span></i></span><span lang="en-us"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">in no one else, for </span></span></i></span><span lang="en-us"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">there is no other </span></span></i></span><span lang="en-us"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved</span></span></i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">" Acts 4:12</span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">Here are some excerpts:</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">________________________________________________</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="apple-style-span"><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">The House of Deputies of the 75th General Convention of the Episcopal Church today overwhelmingly refused to even consider a resolution that affirmed Jesus Christ as the "only name by which any person may be saved."</span></span></span></span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"><br /><br /></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">"This type of language was used in 1920s and 1930s to alienate the type of people who were executed. It was called the Holocaust. I understand the intent, but I ask you to allow the discharge to stay," said the Rev. Eugene C. McDowell, a graduate of Yale Divinity School and Canon Theologian for the Diocese of North Carolina.</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"><br /></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">" The resolution further affirmed "the substitutionary essence of the Cross and the manifestation of God's unlimited and unending love for all persons," while calling on the Episcopal Church to renew its Scripture-based witness to "all persons."</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"><br /><br /></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">The Rev. McDowell said "In the Episcopal Church we don't do up and down votes on Jesus Christ as Lord, and to do so is potentially a mean-spirited approach, to ask questions that aren't meant to be questions."</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"><br /><br /></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">McDowell explained that how one lives his life is the more important issue than whether one affirms Jesus as Lord. To place a statement of belief over actions is the essence of "self-righteousness," he said. "Actions speak louder than proclamations...What Jesus calls us to do is to live our lives."</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"><br /><br /></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">McDowell outlined his basic theology of grace: "Salvation by grace is remembering that we are the children of a living God. Grace is already there. And salvation is realizing we now live into that salvation. And sanctification is the transforming of my life from one that's me-centered to one that's God-centered."</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"><br /><br /></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">The final tally on the electronic vote was 70.5 percent for discharge (675 votes) and just 29.5 (242 votes) to consider the resolution affirming Jesus Christ as Lord.</span></span></span></span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">_______________________________________________</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">Um....OK</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">So grace and Jesus are separable? It seems pretty clear from the Bible that the grace of God can only be accessed via Jesus - to accept that there are other ways or other saviours is to deny the supremacy and exclusivity of Christ. Please do pray for the episcopalian church - they are in dire need of salvation, as are many others.</span></span></p>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-953834367448948082009-09-02T10:12:00.000-07:002009-09-02T10:18:22.166-07:00As we forgiveI have just finished a truly profound book called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/As-We-Forgive-Stories-Reconciliation/dp/0310287308">As we forgive</a>. It is about seven people's stories who survived the Rwandan genocide - a trully horrific event. The book is very moving and ones heart breaks at peoples violent anger and inhumanity to each other.<div><br /></div><div>Where I found myself really stretched was in restorative justice vs retributive justice. Perhaps the toughest part was when a violent offender repents and asks for forgiveness, how do we deal with that when the crime has been so bloody, so inhumane? Should there still be retribution and punishment even if they have truly repented of their actions? The real challenge is that by seeking retribution the victim gains nothing. Their loved ones are still dead, innocence is still lost and any satisfaction is only hollow...</div><div><br /></div><div>I found myself deeply challenged by God's grace through these survivors stories as well as my own sentiments around justice and punishment against the compassion they showed...really worth a read!</div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-76176093215055782442009-08-23T23:05:00.000-07:002009-08-23T23:12:54.371-07:00poor preachingEvery now and then I get to watch some DSTV and I see some of the "big" preachers. But I find myself normally walking away feeling very disturbed. This weekend it happened again. <div><br /></div><div>I listened to the pastor of a very large and popular Australian church <b>talk </b>with a worldwide music ministry. I use the word <b>talk </b>because it was NOT a sermon and he did NOT preach. It was honestly one of the worst public addresses I have ever heard in a church and I was deeply saddened. His message was unbiblical at best and heretical at worst. He barely quoted scripture and when he did he twisted it so say what ever he wanted it to. It seems pretty clear that his message is predefined and then he uses the scripture to say what HE wants to say rather than what GOD wants to say.</div><div><br /></div><div>We all make mistakes and certainly there are sermons that I look back on and I sometimes laugh, other times I get embarrased! But this was something else. I find I must stay close to God's word when I preach becuaseI am not sure that I trust my own opinion enough to work without it.</div><div><br /></div><div>If you are looking for a church - find one where the preacher preaches God's word - where the sermon is saturated in the scriptures, where the preacher attempts to help you understand the text rather than his or her own ideas.</div><div><br /></div><div>Preaching is the way that God has chosen to spread the message of Jesus love and atoning sacrifice - so we'd better do it well!</div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-75290846154454109952009-08-12T23:16:00.001-07:002009-08-17T00:11:34.584-07:00Praying and reading publically<div class="Section1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;">We want to get people involved in praying and reading scripture in public worship to get a better participation. To this end a number of people have said that they are prepared to do this. So I’d like to give them some pointers as it is very different to speak up front than what it is to do so in private.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"> But in talking with a colleague he related the story of how a young girl recently was given some pointers, but now her praying has become stayed and conservative instead of the slightly ‘messy’ but real and passionate style she started off with.</span></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"> Which got me thinking. What’s important and what is not? I’d like to give some direction, but would not want to box or limit the prayers into one narrow-minded style – a couple of people who pray just like me are not what I want!</span></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"> A couple of key things that I will be looking at are:</span></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"></p><ol><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;">Trinitarian prayers – my pet peeve is when people thank the Father for dying on the cross when it was Jesus who died on the cross (you could perhaps theologically argue differently, but this issue is about not being conscious of how we pray)</span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;">Repeatedly using some name for God. I know a person who will repeat one of God's names every fifth or sixth word. This is not helpful, we don’t speak like that to our friends, why should we do so to God.</span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;">The prayer would be helpful to be spoken in a communal style as is Our Father... not My Father...</span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;">We are not talking to those present but are voicing their prayers publically to God...sometimes we sermonize in our prayers</span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;">Keep it simple, conversational and directed</span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;">It’s OK to write your prayers out – to pray spontaneously is not necessarily more Spirit filled!</span></li></ol><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span><p></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"> What else do you think would be important principals?</span></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"> </span></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:verdana;"> </span></o:p></p> </div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-51373433146798054022009-08-06T02:50:00.001-07:002009-08-06T02:51:50.591-07:00Sunday notices letter<div class="Section1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;">Dear Friends,</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;">In all of this discussion, debate, preaching and reflecting on the life of the church and what it means to be the church I have found my own understanding hugely challenged by things I have read and other things people have shared. In a moment when was feeling concerned about some of this debate, one of the older and wiser members said this to me “</span></span><i><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;">Don’t you think that a whole church discussing, talking, arguing about “love” is great? I may be naïve but I think that it only be beneficial.</span></span></i><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;">” And I think he is right.</span></span></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;"> Sometimes we need to go back, rework, discuss, debate and even disagree on things. It’s when we become complacent that we miss the work God is doing. So it has been really good to talk through these things. Our love for God and for each other are of primary importance to us being the church.</span></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;"> This week I have seen the church exhibit love in the following ways: Two people reconciled a difficulty in their friendship. Council and prayer given to a family in a tough place. A member offered a job prospect to another who needs additional work. Brothers and sisters met over a dinner that included some who are not part of Jesus church so as to plug them into Jesus. Some men shared together their deep joys and confusing difficulties and what they are learning from God through these times. People brought food to help those in our midst who are hungry. A father who has experienced deep pain gave a gift to encourage someone who is now facing what he has already gone through. Others have given of time money and resources to bless people whom they have never met outside the life of our congregation.</span></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;"> The church is built on our care and compassion for each other in the power of God’s spirit. I have been moved by what I have seen. Let’s continue from strength to strength making every effort to BE Jesus church in every way!</span></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;"> Blessings,</span></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#FFFFFF;">Brent</span></span><span style="color:black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-19733027557503858732009-08-05T23:45:00.001-07:002009-08-14T07:36:01.831-07:00Missional church?<div class="Section1"> <p class="MsoNormal">There is a lot of talk in various parts of the world about being missional. Every person has their own interpretation of this, like the other much bandied about word: emerging. But it does reflect a new way that people are looking at how churches focus themselves. Stetzer and Putmun in “<i>Breaking the missional code</i>” reflect this shift in thinking in this way:<o:p></o:p></p> <ul type="disc"> <li class="MsoNormal">From programs to processes<o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal">From demographics to discernment<o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal">From models to missions<o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal">From attractional to incarnational<o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal">From uniformity to diversity<o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal">From professional to passionate<o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal">From seating to sending<o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal">From decisions to disciples<o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal">From additional to exponential<o:p></o:p></li> <li class="MsoNormal">From monuments to movements<o:p></o:p></li> </ul> <p class="MsoNormal">This resonates hugely with me as many of these are things our church has been beginning to grapple with. When I started at Protea Valley we where a small church and we have more than doubled in size. But as we have, we’ve had to be more deliberate in the way that we do things. We’ve intentionally not committed to programs but rather are investing into groups where real life change happens. We are beginning to grapple with many of the above mentioned shifts.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Like all things these are journeys and we’re just starting this one.<o:p></o:p></p> </div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-15806241947531120732009-08-04T23:06:00.000-07:002009-08-04T23:24:08.157-07:00New Members Course<div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal">Our church had its new members orientation week 1 session last night with 20 people in attendance and another 4 awol. Great to see so many new faces in the system. Our new program is much more comprehensive than before and it will be interesting to see how people respond to the progress.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> We’re trying to work pragmatically with different people following different ‘streams’ dependant on their background and maturity of the faith. This is still a work in progress but at the moment it looks something like this image:</o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMEZdtvAFJ6hxXECCoN6eptTWBhvLzzrNURWiGWFAYbPWDdl7kky2kfB5SgGQtE4fcTai0jqKJtrgLi6eK3S4mju60Ccer3zaXXW9652BSLOCZSCy9TKWLVarMWsF_OwvWHjU9G5ontA/s1600-h/process.jpg"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMEZdtvAFJ6hxXECCoN6eptTWBhvLzzrNURWiGWFAYbPWDdl7kky2kfB5SgGQtE4fcTai0jqKJtrgLi6eK3S4mju60Ccer3zaXXW9652BSLOCZSCy9TKWLVarMWsF_OwvWHjU9G5ontA/s400/process.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5366360901858535186" style="float: left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 186px; " /></a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal">It means that we will have everyone go through orientation – 2 weeks to outline who we are, what we believe and what membership entails. Then they will all be interviewed. Those who are devoted followers of Jesus (perhaps transferring from another congregation) would come easily and quickly into membership. Those who are new to the faith would go through some doctrine course to outline the important essence of the Christian faith to ensure they know what they believe and that they have in fact been born again. They would also complete a spiritual gifts course to ensure they knew how they are gifted. Service is not optional but part of being the body.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">We may at some point change this, like I mentioned it is a work in progress, but we believe that we are on the right track...It also means that people who do not get through the system for any reason will go into pastoral counseling so that they can be pastored into the system rather than lost as in the previous way of doing things.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">What do you think?<o:p></o:p></p> </div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-15537779842581475382009-08-04T03:36:00.000-07:002009-08-04T03:37:06.269-07:00Community and faith<div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal>In an article on churches and reaching the iGen , the 20 somethings, John Peacock who ministers at Willowcreek said this:<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal>“People belong before they believe or behave”<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal>Very powerful and this is where old school membership gets the horse before the cart, because belong never features at all. Homegroups are key tools in instilling belief and behaviour in people. The old model of Sunday worship is the church is only effective to a point. Makes for some really interesting reflection...<o:p></o:p></p> </div> Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-59926335647935222322009-07-31T01:34:00.000-07:002009-07-31T01:41:01.926-07:00Drama, video and preachingWell respected preacher John Piper makes some really interesting comments about the use of video and drama to suppliment preaching. I have from time to time used music and video to very good effect in assisting my preaching. But he raises a very serious question about our belief in the power of preaching.<div><br /></div><div>check him out on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/cOnq0-aPM1I">youtube</a></div><div><br /></div><div>Pipers comments get me thinking on another tack. The deeper question in my mind is what about the 'form' of preaching.</div><div><br /></div><div>Let's say that preachers A and B both preach the exact same sermon to their respective congregations who are for all intents and purpsoes identical. But preacher A is not very engaging whilst preacher B is very dynamic. Which preacher is more powerful in being used by God to change lives?</div><div><br /></div><div>I'd love to say that it is the content and not the form that is important, but more and more I am not enitrely conviced...</div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-44137804639984289622009-07-30T02:32:00.000-07:002009-07-30T02:38:30.231-07:00Membership part IIOK so we're conisitently revisiting this membership thing and we've had some comments and some good suggestiosn made. On of the key issues is what does a follower of Jesus look like. If we know what a folower of Jeuss looks like then we can make teh entrance requirement the desire to strive towrds being that kind of person. <div><br /></div><div>A follower of Jesus is NOT just someone who can say Jesus is Lord. Our churches worldwide membership lists are full of people who confess that truth but whos lives show no regeneration at all. They don;t fellowship, regulalry attend worship or live lives that seem to be changed by Jesus.</div><div><br /></div><div>What do you think of what I believe that a fully devoted follower of Jesus would look like?</div><div><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:115%;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; font-family: Georgia; "><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%">Repent of their sin and make public confession of a Trinitarian belief and be baptized</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:115%;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%">Regularly worship Jesus privately and publically<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:115%;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%">Live a holy and moral life<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:115%;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%">Study the Scriptures both Old and New testaments<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:115%;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%">Be diligent in prayer<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:115%;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%">Love the church through fellowship and community<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:115%;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">7.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%">Serve in ministry according to their gifts<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:115%;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">8.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%">Commit to witness to the lost<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; line-height:115%;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">9.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%">Would give financially to God’s work in this church and elsewhere</span></p></div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-493039693051015992009-07-17T09:33:00.000-07:002009-07-17T09:36:01.710-07:00Church membershipWe recently decided to tie together church membership with home group attendance. We are trying really hard not to create hoops for people to jump through. But what we do understand is that home groups are the key places where we live authentic Chrisitan fellowship and where we can serve those who are our brothers and sisters.<div><br /></div><div>Of course this has not met with everyones approval - but we were prepared for that and we will continue to move forward with this becuase we think it is the most effective way to produce devoted followers of Jesus. As leaders that is our aim - names on a database is pretty meaningless.</div><div><br /></div><div>What do you think?</div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-10099220583869490132009-05-26T07:43:00.000-07:002009-05-26T08:07:05.307-07:00WowOK it has been some time since I blogged here....I think I need to dust off a few things :) Perhaps if the few folk who read this blog could add some comment we'd get some more discussion going....so please add your 2 cents!<br />_______________________________________________________________<br /><br />Anyhow we've been journeying through Galatians and particularly looking at the major issue of law vs. grace that Paul tackles elsewhere too. It is such a struggle to accept grace - that God is in fact not the cosmic bean counter.<br /><br />2 Corinthians 5:18-19 "All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation."<br /><br />So many Christians find this truth so tough to absorb - that Grace is the answer and not right action. Perhaps one of the most moving and challenging books on this is Philip Yancey's "what is so amazing about grace" is definitely worth a read!<br /><br />The tension is that whilst we cannot be made right by the law - we are expected to live as if we where under it. I guess when we get it right we thing we're especially blessed and when we think we've essed up that we are cursed - yet Grace works beyond and above both those realms. It is a fundamentall difference between our God and other religions.<br /><br />What an awesome God we serve.<br /><br />_________________________________________________________________________<br /><br />This Sunday being Pentecost we're talking about...well, tough guess, the work of the Hoy Spirit!Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-27752865329958333742008-10-08T05:14:00.000-07:002008-10-08T05:21:31.773-07:00Worship Pastors?Worship pastors seem to me to be a strange thing. I believe that we should really lose the term entirely (my church is still small and we don't have a worship pastor. yet? ) <div><br /></div><div>Here is the issue: we have often elevated worship music to the status of worship....and it is not. It is part of worship, and an important part at that, and I love sining songs to God, old or new. That being said we to often see singing worship as the totallity of worship, and that is to make a fatal mistake.<div><br /></div><div>I'd argue that unless we worship God with all of our lives (Rom 11, 1 Cor 10:31) Monday to Sunday in whatever we do, we are not really worshipping him, no matter how intese or spirtual our sunday singing may have felt. Of course that brings the obvious point that it really does not make a difference how we feel, it really matters what God feels about our worship. </div><div><br /></div><div>Which makes me wonder again: if we sing songs repeatedly to worship God becuase it feels good has it then ceased to be worship and instead become the idolatry of self?</div></div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-41493190572806668012008-10-08T05:13:00.001-07:002008-10-08T05:14:54.562-07:00John PiperJohn Piper is an outstanding preacher...good old shcool reformed teaching check out his website at <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/">Desiring God </a> his sermons are available for donwload and well worth listening to. He preaches from time to time at Mark Driscol's church Mars Hill which is where I picked up his stuff.Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-66794961437888352892008-09-18T00:09:00.000-07:002008-09-18T00:10:11.690-07:00SermonJams<div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://relevantrevolution.com/home.html">http://relevantrevolution.com/home.html</a><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal>Some great stuff here, if you can get past some of the frustratingly annoying backing music...short, punchy sermons with good substance by some well known names...make copies, pass them on and let’s get Jesus message out there!<o:p></o:p></p> </div> Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-53285861776733027902008-08-31T23:42:00.001-07:002008-08-31T23:42:22.741-07:00Great Article on the Divinity of Jesus<div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal>Mark Roberts is a PCUSA minister who’s <a href="http://www.markdroberts.com/">blog</a> I read. He has written a great series on <a href="http://www.markdroberts.com/htmfiles/resources/jesusdivine.htm">Jesus divinity</a>. In this outstanding article he outlines some of the early development of the theology of the Early church with regards to the divinity of Jesus. It is very helpful as an apologetic tool against those who would suggest that the divinity of Jesus is a much later invention.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-33282913194516319272008-08-25T23:57:00.001-07:002008-08-26T08:42:53.948-07:00Chinese liers<div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal">I feel so cheated after watching the Olympic opening ceremony on TV and being wowed by it all. We are now told the girl who sang the song was actually lip synching because the girl who had the voice was not pretty enough and it "was in the national interest" to have a pretty face and a good voice. Likewise many of the fireworks where pre-recorded too.<?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p>It seems that so much of what China shows the world is a lie when the truth behind the scenes is something far more serious and devious. Whilst they might be the next superpower I think that their misinformation, lies and rhetoric will outdo even that of the current superpower, the USA. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p>It seems like nothing around us is what it seems. Lying seems acceptable if it will get us riches or power and what I find most disturbing is that people accept it and carry on as if nothing happens.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p>Perhaps it is time we stood up for the truth and for the one calls himself the Truth. Perhaps it is time that the church took a stand against corruption and lies that face us each and every day. I am not suggesting that the church become political, but I am suggesting the church speaks out against corrupt politics and lying politicians. Otherwise we stand to be mislead like we were at the Olympics and we fail to see what is really happening. We have the wool pulled over our eyes and we miss the wood for the trees. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p><span lang="EN-US">"<i>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. </i></span><i><sup><span lang="EN-US"></span></sup></i><i><span lang="EN-US">He was with God in the beginning. <sup> </sup>Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. </span></i><i><sup><span lang="EN-US"> </span></sup></i><i><span lang="EN-US">In him was life, and that life was the light of men. </span></i><i><sup><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:'Times New Roman','serif';"></span></sup></i><i><span lang="EN-US">The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=2818367298370111647&postID=3328291319451631927#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1"><sup> </sup></a>it.</span></i><span lang="EN-US">"</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Perhaps it is time that we allow Jesus light to shine into the darkness of this world.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style="mso-element: footnote-list"> </div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-73779288840716269722008-08-23T06:39:00.000-07:002008-08-26T08:53:01.960-07:00So long bud...<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiSW6IjqPDYEX-wOoFFhgdTYLdOWUZk429AQr8xMAe2yFCYqNUirfl2g13okcmyFdp2hsFFiFgXdK0TBPbdJrqhmKlaWoPRhbTiZc-Z8vpeAacglYghhMN8P7aJhmsYBENy9Bg4HHmS0w/s1600-h/Kenya+Summt.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5237707817301007778" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiSW6IjqPDYEX-wOoFFhgdTYLdOWUZk429AQr8xMAe2yFCYqNUirfl2g13okcmyFdp2hsFFiFgXdK0TBPbdJrqhmKlaWoPRhbTiZc-Z8vpeAacglYghhMN8P7aJhmsYBENy9Bg4HHmS0w/s320/Kenya+Summt.jpg" border="0" /></a> Yesterday my close friend Hannes died whilst climbing on Mont Blanc in the Alps.<?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:p></o:p> <p class="MsoNormal">His last mail a week back was “<i>next week i am off with Mark Johnston to climb something big and alpine and so and so for 3 or 4 days...grim life! ciao H”<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class="MsoNormal">Here is a pic of Hannes (left) and I on the summit Mount Kenya almost three years ago to the day in happier times!<o:p></o:p></p><div class="Section1">Hannes loved the Lord, amidst the questions and wrestles we all have as we face the confusion and difficulty of life. The sadness is losing him when he was at the highest point. It seemed that everything had finally come together and he had recieved answer to prayers prayed over many years. He had just relocated to Switzerland to be with his girlfriend Angelika and he was happier than he had been for a long time, they where planning to come back in a couple of months and already we'd begun to speak of what we'd climb.</div><div class="Section1"> </div><div class="Section1">There are so many moments that we shared roped together, sometimes just the two of us, other times with Ty another close friend. We shared laughter and fear, we had moments of silliness and other moments where we reflected deeply on life. There is a kinship of the mountains that can never be explained to those who have not shared it, a brotherhood of the rope - a bond that runs deep. There is something amazingly surreal about sitting on a ledge hundreds of meters above the scree slopes, arms buzzing after an epic pitch of Cape Town sandstone, your mind in a place so free, feet dangling barefoot over the void, a gentle breeze and the African sun warming your back - moments when it almost feel like you're touching heaven in God's creation - it is those moments with Hannes that I will remember forever.</div><div class="Section1"> </div><div class="Section1">Hannes died doing what he loved most, perhaps in heaven we get to do those things we love most again - I sure hope so and Hannes my prayer is that you're busy cranking the crux on some epic heavenly route!<br /></div><div class="Section1">Cheers bud, we’re gonna miss ya!<i><br /><br /></i></div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-46147560501021131592008-08-20T23:50:00.001-07:002008-08-21T00:02:40.483-07:00A great piece!<div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:p><a href="http://theologica.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2124612%3ABlogPost%3A1365&page=2#">An outstanding piece about the prosperity gospel</a></o:p></p></div>Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2818367298370111647.post-59683873665153463602008-08-18T23:57:00.001-07:002008-08-18T23:57:17.372-07:00New ways of reading the NT?<div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal>Some parts of the emerging movement are focused on us reading the scriptures in a ‘new way’ basically reinterpreting the Bible to show how Jesus is concerned with the world here and now and that the Gospel has a massive social impact.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal>I recently read McLarens ‘everything must change’ whilst on a stint in hospital. And whilst I find the book challenging, helpful and hopeful, I do have a concern. Whilst I agree with that aspect of the Gospel, and the reading between the lines approach to see what Jesus meant, I am concerned that this new movement has missed the basic stuff that Jesus actually said.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal>There is very little talk if any of sin, resurrection and the life to come. These things that I believe are of primary importance are often plainly missing. Whilst there are parts of the emerging church movement that are great and effective I really often find myself thinking they are searching the scriptures so hard to find things that Jesus might have meant that they miss what he so obviously said!<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal>What do you think?<o:p></o:p></p> </div> Brenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01132796568372146293noreply@blogger.com0